Simple and Smart SEO: GEO for Shopify and Etsy sellers

Why AI Search Is Still SEO (and Why AI Slop Won’t Last) with Kristine Schachinger (Part 2)

• Crystal Waddell • Season 5 • Episode 219

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Does your business need a new AI search strategy? 

And what happens when everyone uses AI to write the same kinds of content?

In Part 2 of this conversation on the Simple and Smart SEO Show, Crystal Waddell and technical SEO consultant Kristine Schachinger explore the debate around GEO, AEO, and SEO, including why Kristine considers AI search part of the SEO umbrella.

The conversation also tackles a question that matters whether you’re an independent consultant or a business owner wearing every hat: 

What should SEO actually be responsible for? 

Crystal and Kristine discuss relevant traffic, visibility, conversions, and how those responsibilities change depending on what you can control.

Kristine shares a Zappos example of using title tags to communicate a compelling reason to click. 

Then she explains her concerns about mass-produced AI content, her predictions about Google’s direction, and why she continues to invest in human writers.

You’ll leave with ideas for improving your search listings, reviewing important pages, and bringing more of your own perspective into your content.

What you’ll learn

  • Why Kristine challenges the idea that GEO is a separate discipline.
  • How she approaches the relationship between SEO and AI search visibility.
  • Why SEO responsibilities look different inside a large company versus a solo business.
  • How a clear selling point in your title tags can give searchers a reason to click.
  • Kristine’s perspective on AI-assisted writing, content detection, and the future of search.
  • Where she recommends starting if your content strategy needs a reset.
  • Why an ordinary topic can still become interesting, useful content.

Chapters

00:00 GEO, AEO, and SEO: the naming debate
01:38 Why Kristine says AI search still needs SEO
03:01 Is AI search a separate discipline?
03:59 What should SEO be responsible for?
08:34 Improving clicks from search results
10:14 AI content and Kristine’s concerns about Google’s direction
15:11 AI watermarking and detection
16:41 Where does AI-assisted writing fit?
17:54 Books and AI training data
20:44 Where to start when your content needs work
24:09 Making everyday topics worth reading
26:28 Where to follow Kristine

A quote to remember

“The web started with pretty bad writers who wrote lots of weird, interesting stuff, right?”
— Kristine Schachinger

Try this after listening

Pick one page that matters to your business. Check whether its search title communicates a clear reason to visit. Then read the page and ask: What does this offer that a reader couldn’t get from dozens of similar pages? Add a relevant example, firsthand experience, or useful detail that reflects what you know.

Resources discussed

SEO Gets, Webcology, and Gary Marcus’s commentary on AI.

Connect with Kristine

Find Kristine Schachinger on LinkedIn and listen to Webcology on Apple Podcasts.

Listen to Part 1

Explore website accessibility, content structure, and vibe coding in “Can AI Read Your Website? Accessibility and Vibe Coding with Kristine Schachinger”


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Here's a quick question: Are people actually finding your products on Google?

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 Hey, Shopify store owners! (Especially if you're selling on Etsy, too!)

Here's a quick question: Are people actually finding your products on Google?

If SEO feels confusing, overwhelming, or like something you'll "get to later", this is for you.

I'm hosting a free, seven day Shopify SEO challenge that breaks it down into simple, doable steps.

No tech headaches, no fluff. Join us at aise

 Hey, Shopify store owners! (Especially if you're selling on Etsy, too!)

Here's a quick question: Are people actually finding your products on Google?

If SEO feels confusing, overwhelming, or like something you'll "get to later", this is for you.

I'm hosting a free, seven day Shopify SEO challenge that breaks it down into simple, doable steps.

No tech headaches, no fluff. Join us at

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